Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

Be aware that those extracts are squares around the cities - they're not exact city border outlines. This means that you can't just use the data without concern for whether the things you're gathering are actually within the city or not.

I haven't found a very simple way to get everything within exact city borders, yet. This is the process I've been going with so far: https://github.com/JamesChevalier/cities#cities



That is a very useful resource; thank you.

Some cities make shapefiles available for urban growth boundaries and city limits. It's worth enquiring. But be aware that some cities city limits are not simple polygons; depending on local ordinances you can see islands, internal voids and peninsulas attached with zero width stems.


True! Like Houston, TX ... which looks a little like the flying spaghetti monster ... http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=3675...

The poly files that you get from the process outlined in the readme file will include islands/voids. It's pretty cool.


Well remember OSM is an international project, so trying to find one definition of "city" and "border of a city" is hard. Some places (like USA) seem to use "city" as a hard solid thing, other places (eg UK / ireland) don't.


Yeah - OSM goes a long way in categorizing different levels of "area in which people live" based on population density. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place


Except that the place tag isn't always based on population size. In some places, (e.g. UK), a common cultural definition of a "city" is archaic, and depends if the place has a Cathedral and/or charter from the monarch.

I give you the "city" of St. David's: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/3216768 It's in Wales, UK, and is tagged as "place=city". It's a small town of ~2,000 people. It has a charter from the monarch, and a cathedral. The "note" tag in OSM says: "the "city" is on paper, what's on the ground is a small town".

Humanity is complicated. :)


UK isn't the only place with weird "cities".

Greenhorn, Oregon is designated as a city but has a 2010 census population of zero. Though now unicorporated, Tenny, Minnesota, was a city and had a peak population of 180 people in 1910 but now is down to 5 (2010 census).


heh, true!

I've been playing with place names & http://overpass-turbo.eu/ ... I seem to be getting the best results with "city|hamlet|metropolis|town|village", although some states like Alaska & Hawaii still don't return much with this scope.

In Alaska, a lot of places are labeled as County. In Hawaii, a lot of places are labeled as Other.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: