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Where does the saving come from if they still require a driver? From the article, it sounds like the biggest gain is probably in hiring. Possibly also additional savings in fewer accidents. (lower overall fatigue)


Semi-autonomous road trains, assuming - and I admit this isn't a minor thing ;) - only the lead lorry need be occupied, would let you get more lorry-hours per driver hour. This might not actually improve the driver:lorry ratio, but by spreading one driver over multiple lorries you could operate the lorries in shifts with that same ratio.

Say currently one driver can drive 8 hours per day. So if you need to drive for 24 hours, it's going to take 3 days. If you had 3 lorries doing that journey, it would take 3 days.

But say you had your semi-autonomous road train. Now you could do the journey in 24 hours. One driver drives for 8 hours, then the next guy, then the next guy. The two lorries behind just tag along.

Imagine 3 x 25 hour journeys, where the destinations didn't quite match. Previously this would take 4 days. This time: there's 24 hours of shared journey and an extra unshared hour of travel at the end of the route. Now your drivers have to split up at that point. The guy who was driving the road train last will have to wait 16 hours, so his journey takes 24+17 = 41 hours; the guy who was driving before him will have to wait 8 hours, so his journey takes 24+9 = 33 hours; the other guy can jump in his lorry and go straight away, so his journey takes 25 hours.


> Semi-autonomous road trains

Actually, why aren't there fully autonomous freight trains on railways yet? We have driverless commuter trains (Docklands Light Railway) why not the same for long distance freight? The infrastructure is there - automated signalling devices in cab, it doesn't seem too big a leap. One hurdle might be unions, I recall ASLEF or someone got upset about the DLR when it first appeared?


There are.

in Australia there are a few automation projects for mining rail.


How do you synchronize multiple trucks? One company wants their truck to leave at 6pm so something will be available the next morning. Another nearby needs to wait till 6:30 before they're ready to leave. Where's the train?

Perhaps trains would form spontaneously as automated trucks encountered each other? You can't plan it too tightly because one might be late. So it sounds like every truck will still need a driver ready to be the leader or on their own.

Keep in mind that one reason trucks are so much more popular than rail trains is their flexibility. One by one as they're ready and different start and end points each.


That is quite a big if, but it completely does make sense. With cameras in the right places and VR headsets, I think it's feasible.


But the drivers don't have to be driving. They just need to be awake and alert in case the system tells them to pay attention, so they could be doing some other job as well, like, I dunno, writing code.


Aw hell no. It's hard enough to concentrate in a cubicle.


Once these trucks are out there in numbers, the financial incentive to eliminate drivers will be so high (and there will be safety data) that the laws will change to allow true driverless.


Increased safety and reduced insurance. Will automation reduce fuel with more efficient driving?


might be that you can do without a second driver for long distances.




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