> I understand that a comment such as mine would rankle.
It doesn't rankle. It just makes you look childish and immature.
> If I did, I'm not entirely sure how...
God you bore me. I'm not interested in having a discussion on the philosophy of art here. Just say he's your favorite musician so far and be done with it. Just like whoever was your previous favorite musician before bach.
> God you bore me. I'm not interested in having a discussion on the philosophy of art here.
You are not, but he is and made his comment in this spirit.
> Just say he's your favorite musician so far and be done with it.
Saying someone is your favorite X and someone is the greatest X are different things, you can think of someone as the greatest X and not like them (unlikely but possible).
When you say about a technical concept of your expertice, that X is the best way to do Y, it does not preclude, that there isn't a better way to be invented, or that exists elsewhere, that you just are not aware of. The same is true here.
I honestly can agree with lordleft. In addition he [Bach] is also (jokingly) called the fifth evangelist, at least in Germany. Not sure, if this remark is known elsewhere.
> You are not, but he is and made his comment in this spirit.
He made the comment in the spirit of being a silly fanboy. Just like most respondents so far.
> Saying someone is your favorite X and someone is the greatest X are different things, you can think of someone as the greatest X and not like them (unlikely but possible).
Agreed. That's my point.
> When you say about a technical concept of your expertice, that X is the best way to do Y, it does not preclude, that there isn't a better way to be invented, or that exists elsewhere, that you just are not aware of. The same is true here.
We are talking about art. Not an objective "technical concept". Not only that, it's nearly impossible to say X is the greatest author/writer/etc, X is the greatest painter, X is the greatest musician, X is the great film director, etc. If we can't even decide within a particular art form, who is the greatest, it even more laughable to say X is the greatest artist FULL STOP. That's my point. Not to mention that it's is nearly impossible to have consumed and understood all art, even within a genre. And we haven't even addressed the subjective nature of art.
> In addition he [Bach] is also (jokingly) called the fifth evangelist, at least in Germany. Not sure, if this remark is known elsewhere.
>> Saying someone is your favorite X and someone is the greatest X are different things, you can think of someone as the greatest X and not like them (unlikely but possible).
> Agreed. That's my point.
You do? You agree, that "X is the greatest Y" is just a valid statement as "X is my favourite Y" and conveys different information? Wasn't my observation, but then the discussion is finished. Actually the former is a better statement on a discussion website, since it allows discussion, while the latter is basically a useless statement, that you can't even object to.
> We are talking about art.
So what. You can still discuss this. Also music is also a science and Bach did some important work in this direction. There are different tastes, but whether a given artist caters to a taste the best, is something you can discuss objectively. Also composing is a craftsmanship, and you can still discuss the craftsmanship even if you don't agree with the final work.
> X is the greatest author/writer/etc, X is the greatest painter, X is the greatest musician, X is the great film director, etc. If we can't even decide within a particular art form, who is the greatest, it even more laughable to say X is the greatest artist FULL STOP.
"hearsathought" is the greatest discusser! There I just did it. Doesn't seem to be impossible to me.
> it even more laughable to say X is the greatest artist FULL STOP.
Why? lordleft didn't even claim to talk for all humans.
>> In addition he [Bach] is also (jokingly) called the fifth evangelist, at least in Germany. Not sure, if this remark is known elsewhere.
> Who cares? It just proves my point.
How so? I don't get your point than, because to me it proves the opposite.
> Who cares?
A lot of people found it useful to spark a discussion and it is currently the first comment.
> He made the comment in the spirit of being a silly fanboy. Just like most respondents so far.
>> Saying someone is your favorite X and someone is the greatest X are different things, you can think of someone as the greatest X and not like them (unlikely but possible).
> Agreed. That's my point.
You do? You agree, that "X is the greatest Y" is just a valid statement as "X is my favourite Y" and conveys different information? Wasn't my observation, but then the discussion is finished. Actually the former is a better statement on a discussion website, since it allows discussion, while the latter is basically a useless statement, that you can't even object to.
> We are talking about art.
So what. You can still discuss this. Also music is also a science and Bach did some important work in this direction. There are different tastes, but whether a given artist caters to a taste the best, is something you can discuss objectively. Also composing is a craftsmanship, and you can still discuss the craftsmanship even if you don't agree with the final work.
> X is the greatest author/writer/etc, X is the greatest painter, X is the greatest musician, X is the great film director, etc. If we can't even decide within a particular art form, who is the greatest, it even more laughable to say X is the greatest artist FULL STOP.
"hearsathought" is the greatest discusser! There I just did it. Doesn't seem to be impossible to me.
> it even more laughable to say X is the greatest artist FULL STOP.
Why? lordleft didn't even claim to talk for all humans.
>> In addition he [Bach] is also (jokingly) called the fifth evangelist, at least in Germany. Not sure, if this remark is known elsewhere.
> Who cares? It just proves my point.
How so? I don't get your point then, because to me it proves the opposite.
> Who cares?
A lot of people found it useful enough to spark a discussion and it is currently the first comment.
> He made the comment in the spirit of being a silly fanboy. Just like most respondents so far.
Nah, that's just your opinion. If you don't agree, it would have been more useful to give a contradicting argument, than to dismiss the statement as inexpressible a priori.
It doesn't rankle. It just makes you look childish and immature.
> If I did, I'm not entirely sure how...
God you bore me. I'm not interested in having a discussion on the philosophy of art here. Just say he's your favorite musician so far and be done with it. Just like whoever was your previous favorite musician before bach.