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I care about catching guilty people, but I think we must protect the innocent from harassment as much as possible. I value liberty more than punishment.

Would you support this countrywide? Would you also support something like increased internet surveillance? A digital stop and frisk of every person, so we can catch all the digital bad guys? If so, why not? Because you might get caught up in it? I'm wondering where your line for these sorts of impositions is. It's easy to be for something if you don't expect to get caught in it.

I know that if I was mugged I might be more prone to accepting this sort of liberty loss, but that wouldn't be because I changed my ethical stance, it'd be because I was hurt and scared.



So you have to resort to hypotheticals to make your point. That sorta proves you've lost.

> I value liberty more than punishment

Putting your thumb on the scales and misstating the question. It's not about "punishment" -- it's safety. Yes, fear of punishment does dissuade some criminals from preying on victims.

And you've just admitted why NYC'ers broadly support stop-and-frisk: because they're "scared", too. As if that's something to be ashamed of.

As for "if you don't expect to get caught in it" -- you're right, I don't look like a mugger. You probably don't, either.




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