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For something so critical as IP camera, I'm so frustrated that there isn't a single consumer product that you could use locally or without a manufacturer cloud.

I know we could use a setup with a raspberry, but I would like the usual nice functions of such a problem like: motor and a performant movement détection alerts. All of that without having to develop all of that myself. I would easy buy the product 2 or 3 times the price we pay for current consumer products.



Sorry? There are plenty of PoE cameras that you can use and control locally without any cloud interaction.

I use a ReoLink camera controlled with Synology Surveillance Station ran on a local NAS setup. It allows me to pan the camera and it also has movement detection.

There’s many more advanced use cases you can use with local IP cameras. Just yesterday I purchased one of Synology’s “deep learning” NVRs which allows person detection, face recognition, license plate recognition and more on top of all the standard features (zooming, panning, tilting) with my local Domar cameras.


There’s a _TON_ of options available. Find any camera that supports ONVIF and they support a more or less standardized protocol for discovery and control.

All of my cameras are cheap Aliexpress ones that I have never let connect to the internet (nor installed any janky manufacturer apps). They’re on a VLAN where the only other device is a machine running Blue Iris to do all the camera stuff. It supports PTZ, very configurable motion detection, alerting (including just triggering external apps so you can wire up whatever you want to it), etc.

Total investment here is like $30/camera for the cheap PoE IP cameras and $80 for Blue Iris.


Here's a 4 4K camera DVR non-cloud workable CCTV PTZ system for $300 USD: B07GXTVMYQ


I did the same with motion.


> For something so critical as IP camera, I'm so frustrated that there isn't a single consumer product that you could use locally or without a manufacturer cloud.

Pretty sure all the Apple Homekit stuff lets you do this


Related thread from a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36447024


There are numerous generic IP KVM/DVR solutions that are local only or cloud optional. They're just not heavily marketed in retail consumer channels.




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