It's curious seeing you mention this, while completely ignoring how overwhelmingly negative the linked to thread is, devolving into personal attacks for no good reason - the other linked discussions between various language communities have been very civil and fun to read, but reading this bunch of OCamlers writing long lists of often minor deficiencies shows to me a level of insecurity I haven't seen elsewhere, and I find it very unappealing. It's enough for me to not want to try OCaml because the community seems very hostile. And it's not just jdh, even without his (your?) comments, it's overwhelmingly negative, and needlessly so.