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at least you're doubling down on your ignorance!

It's as insulting as M$ is

Has there ever been a single good piece of writing that uses "M$" or the likes?

"M$" may not be insulting in itself, but it's certainly typically associated with insultingly poor writing.


> Has there ever been a single good piece of writing that uses "M$" or the likes?

There has not.


How is M$ insulting? It just looks like a leetspeak version of MS.

It is supposed to indicate Microsoft cares only about money, which to me too, seems in the same league as microslop, i.e. mildly insulting but really not rude enough to be worth censoring.

And other insults are just words as well. It's the intention, history, connotation etc. behind words that give them meaning. M$ is meant as an insult, hence it's insulting. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/M$

As I said, I was not aware of the insult.

Unfortunately most engineers irrationally hate unions

Unions would’ve been useful at a time CEO’s are salivating at the idea of slashing jobs and replacing SWEs with AI.

I think it would still be useful. Call my cynical but gone are the days where the individual comp and benefits available to SWEs outweigh the benefits of collective bargaining.

Though if ~~apocalypse~~ war happens and all of our built tech goes away, we are in for a serious survival issue.

A lot closer than you think, too


It never left, welcome back to software engineering though!


Thank you, I'm glad to be back!


You may just be an annoying neighbor, have a wonderful day!


This is how capitalism works, and what happens at a large scale, even if you don’t like it.


Just want to say, the "stuff" before is absolutely necessary groundwork to even begin comprehending the implications.


Employees need to join a union


Personally I wouldn’t even start working for an organisation that uses Microsoft …


So how many dozens of organizations can you work for?



> More and more every day.

That's not a bad thing.

But I think its totally unrealistic and impractical to deal with this kind of thing by being so choosy that you won't work for an org that uses Microsoft. Actually acting that way probably just means choosing to be unemployed (for the vast majority, at least).


Honestly I don’t know. Pretty comfortable where I’m now and we would never even consider using any M$ products ever. I know US culture is more about job-hopping every other year but I’m at the same place for many years now


We used to use GSuite then we got acquired and we're a microsoft shop. :(


God that is the one big fear I have xD


unfortunately, my org that used google got acquired by an org that forced MS on us...


My large corp is moving to Google from MS, which doesn’t impact me much (I’m contracted out to another large corp) but I really wonder at the expense (in time) of a migration. What a huge drain on resources in the short term.


code that no human will ever read or understand, sounds like a good idea


We don’t read assembly either any more. The sexy new programming language for 2026 is English.


> We don’t read assembly either any more.

Speak for yourself? In absolute terms there are probably more people reading assembly now than in its heyday.

Moreover, assembly isn't generated, it's compiled, which is a completely different (and more reliable) process than generating source.


You are mistaken. People totally do read and write assembly.


Do you review and approve plaintext plans in your org and ship whatever output Claude outputs that passes the CI to prod without further review? Because that's what we do for assembly.


I think the point is that's where all the big tech companies say we're heading. I can't say I endorse it, but the OP who just left it running for a month seems to like it.


You can determine and justify the reasons why generated assembly is generated because it's made by a deterministic machine. How is an LLM's output deterministic and justifiable? How can one hold anyone to account what spews out by a large language model?


you don't think that's where we are headed?


Oh no doubt, but the people who want that are wrong.


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